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Including review re: Proposal to License Assets of the Foundation Kevin: You have all seen the proposal to license assets of the foundation to a for-profit corporation which would give us income for continued operations. We are prepared to update it based on feedback from the board and outside counsel. The proposal is a compromise between charity and business. Brett: One issue is that vendor neutrality is key to how Apache operates, and we don't want to compete with businesses. Rather, we create opportunities for businesses to exist. Kevin: Competitors can all work on the same Apache projects. Apache is vendor-neutral but we think the new corporation could compete with others. Ted: If there is money to be made, this implies that a third party cannot compete with Apache. We are concerned about Apache competing with our supporters. Phil: Apache's core principle is non-compete. We provide an open platform for developing projects. Ross: This proposal will negatively affect our current sponsors. Jim: We have tried to avoid blessing any third party with the Apache brand. Phil: Transparency is a showstopper. Using the Apache brand while Apache did not produce the product violates transparency. Ted: If the proposed corporation really only takes marginal business (that others don't want) then is there really a business opportunity for the proposed corporation? Kevin: Is there anything in the proposal that can be changed in order to make it more acceptable? Ross/Phil/Jim/Brett: Probably not. Ross: A PMC could develop training materials using "directed sponsorship" funding, and the resulting materials would be available to anyone.