Celebrating 20 years of community-led development "The Apache Way"
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NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Completion of Maturity Model Assessment:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+A
ssessment+for+NetBeans
2. Understanding other steps that need to be taken, e.g., put together a
list of PMC members
3. Vote to graduate.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
- Received Duke's Choice Award 2018 at Oracle Code One conference:
https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/duke-s-choice-award-2018
- Several community members presented about NetBeans at Oracle Code One
2018:
https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/apache-netbeans-at-oracle-code
- Currently 651 (622 in last report) on Apache NetBeans users mailing
list and 455 (438 in last report) on Apache NetBeans dev mailing list.
How has the project developed since the last report?
- 3rd donation, focused on tutorials and images, and related ancillary
items, has been completed.
- netbeans.org redirects as far as possible to netbeans.apache.org, once
documentation is moved and rehoused, it can redirect completely to
netbeans.apache.org.
- Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 final has been released, with many
thanks to Laszlo Kishalmi, our fearless release manager.
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
Please feel free to add your own commentary.
[ ] Initial setup
[ ] Working towards first release
[ ] Community building
[ X ] Nearing graduation
[ ] Other:
Date of last release:
2018-12-27 Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 final release
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
* PPMC member Arunava Sinha elected on October 20, 2018
Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling
through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues
that need to be addressed.
Yes, very helpful and supportive.
Signed-off-by:
[X](netbeans) Ate Douma
Comments:
[X](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
Comments: Looking forward to graduation!
[X](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
Comments:
[X](netbeans) Mark Struberg
Comments:
IPMC/Shepherd notes:
Humbedooh: Seeing good progress in the podling moving towards graduation.
There are still issues to address, and ways to teach, but the project
community seem very willing to learn and adapt.
NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. DNS handover, e.g., for netbeans.org and planetnetbeans.org, needs to
be finalized on the Apache side, Oracle having handed everything related
to domains over now.
2. 3rd donation, focused on tutorials and images, and related ancillary
items.
3. 4th donation, focused on C/C++ features.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
- Three virtual meetups have taken place to connect community members and
discuss activities, all recorded and published on
blogs.apache.org/netbeans.
Around 20 in attendance at these, at the last one there were reps from
Oracle, Apache infra, and Apache NetBeans, discussing the way forward
with the domain handovers.
- Currently 622 (588 in last report) on Apache NetBeans users mailing
list and 438 (422 in last report) on Apache NetBeans dev mailing list.
- Ken Fogel to represent Apache NetBeans at ACNA 2018:
https://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/scheduledEvent/7e6b57d36ccd834f2
- Several community members to be present and present at Oracle Code One
2018:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Oracle+Code+One+2018
How has the project developed since the last report?
- Final release of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 released:
https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb90/nb90.html
- Article about status published on InfoQ:
https://www.infoq.com/news/2018/08/netbeans-apache-update-aug18
- Roadmap put together for the first time:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release
+Roadmap
- Current focus is on Apache NetBeans 10:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10
- Successfully completed cleaning up the root directory of GitHub repo:
[[https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans (done together as a
community, see
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Per-cluster+repository+
layout).
- The legal title to the trademarks has passed in full to Apache, by the
signing of the Trademark and Domain Assignment agreement.
- i.e., brand and domain handover have been completed on the Oracle and
Apache sides, aside from the DNS reassignment, see above.
- Removed single point of failure of non-Apache released binaries from
Oracle to Oregon State University Open Source Lab:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/899
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
Please feel free to add your own commentary.
[ ] Initial setup
[ ] Working towards first release
[X] Community building
[X] Nearing graduation
[ ] Other:
Date of last release:
2018-09-29 Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 final release
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
* PPMC member Eirik Bakke elected on September 27, 2018
* PPMC member Thilina Ranathunga elected on September 18, 2018
* PPMC member Eric Barboni elected on September 4, 2018
Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling
through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues
that need to be addressed.
They have been very helpful as always.
Signed-off-by:
[X](netbeans) Ate Douma
Comments: I also think the project is about ready to graduate. The
community is healthy and the PPMC members get it and have what it
takes to be on their own feet.
[X](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
Comments: I don't think the 2nd and 3rd donation block graduation,
project is mostly ready, discussed on their dev list with a tentative
goal to graduate by then end of this year.
[ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
Comments:
[ ](netbeans) Mark Struberg
Comments:
IPMC/Shepherd notes:
NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Brand and domain donation.
2. 3rd donation, consisting of documentation, e.g., tutorials and related
images.
3. Handing over of netbeans.org to Apache and related rerouting.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
- Currently 588 (557 in last report) on Apache NetBeans users mailing list
and 422 (406 in last report) on Apache NetBeans dev mailing list.
- New splash screen discussed and accepted.
- NetBeans represented at FossBack 2018:
https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/apache-netbeans-at-foss-backstage
- NetBeans represented at COFAN 2018:
https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/netbeans-for-javaee-project-productiv
ity
How has the project developed since the last report?
- May 2018: Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 RC1 released:
https://netbeans.apache.org/download/index.html
- Hats off to Emilian Bold, the first non-Sun/Oracle release manager, who
put the RC1 mentioned above together.
- 2nd Oracle donation consisting of 1.5M lines of code grant accepted and
code handed over:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/2ndDonation
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
Please feel free to add your own commentary.
[ X ] Initial setup
[ X ] Working towards first release
[ X ] Community building
[ ] Nearing graduation
[ ] Other:
Date of last release:
2018-05-28 Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 RC1
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
* PPMC member Laszlo Kishalmi elected on June 12, 2018
* PPMC member Reema Taneja elected on June 29, 2018
Signed-off-by:
[ ](netbeans) Ate Douma
Comments:
[X](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
Comments:
[ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
Comments:
[ ](netbeans) Mark Struberg
Comments:
IPMC/Shepherd notes:
NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Granting and integration of 2nd donation (mainly Java EE, JavaScript,
PHP, Groovy) -- is being wrapped up at Oracle.
2. Granting and integration of 3rd donation, consisting of tutorials,
related images, and other documentation for populating netbeans.apache.org.
3. Rerouting/switching from netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org, plus new
home for plugins.netbeans.org.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware
of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
- NetCAT (NetBeans Community Acceptance Testing) program has started up,
preparatory to final release of 9.0.
- Apache virtual VM has been set up (netbeans-vm.apache.org) and one tool,
used for NetCAT, is already there: http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy
- New Apache NetBeans logo has been voted on and accepted.
- Ongoing discussions re redesign of splash screen.
- Apache NetBeans Day as a class of event has been approved by Apache
trademarks: https://netbeans.apache.org/community/events.html
- First official Apache NetBeans Day accepted via lazy consensus to be held
April 27, in London, at the University of Greenwich:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/328f564ac75 3165b39e7d96e67c929f7996a935ef75437c6c8e239fc@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
- Currently 557 on Apache NetBeans users mailing list and 406 on Apache
NetBeans dev mailing list.
How has the project developed since the last report?
- Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Beta has been released (02/22/18)
- Support for running on JDK 8, 9, 10 added, with Java editor support for new
JDK 10 'var' type (JEP 286: Local-Variable Type Inference).
- netbeans.apache.org is up and running.
- Legal issue settled: Apache does not require and does not consider helpful
list of 3rd party deps in grant:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-374
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
Please feel free to add your own commentary.
[X] Initial setup
[X] Working towards first release
[X] Community building
[ ] Nearing graduation
[ ] Other:
Date of last release:
2018-02-22 Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Beta
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
* PPMC member Antonio Vieiro elected on Feb 18, 2018
* PPMC member John McDonnell elected on Feb 18, 2018
Signed-off-by:
[ ](netbeans) Ate Douma
Comments:
[ ](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
Comments:
[ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
Comments:
[X](netbeans) Mark Struberg
Comments: There is really lots of activity in
the project
IPMC/Shepherd notes:
johndament: Great progress by the podling.
NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Donating remaining NetBeans code from Oracle to Apache. 2. Moving
netbeans.org to Apache. 3. Voting in new committers.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware
of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
- Voting process for new committers has been documented for the first time,
with mentors:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Becoming+a+committer
- The start has been made in voting on new committers, though because the
process wasn't clear, we stopped and put together the document above
before continuing.
- All NetBeans.org mailing lists have been contacted and everyone has been
encouraged to move to Apache NetBeans mailing lists.
- NetBeans.org mailing lists scheduled to be deleted (they're backed up on
MarkMail) in the first week of 2018.
- A new Apache NetBeans announce mailing list has been created for those who
want high level occasional announcements only, not day to day NetBeans
e-mails.
- GitHub commits and notifications are now sent to new dedicated mailing
lists to reduce the noise in the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list.
- Standard footers have been added to mails with info about how to
unsubscribe and where to get all the mailing list info
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists).
- Currently over 550 on Apache NetBeans users mailing list and over 350 on
Apache NetBeans dev mailing lists
- Continual activity on mailing lists, new pull requests coming in and being
integrated, i.e., continually active community.
- Status report done live with several Apache NetBeans community members,
plus one Apache NetBeans mentor, at Devoxx Belgium December 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkfX-W0tgNo
How has the project developed since the last report?
- Audit of 2nd code donation from Oracle is complete and is being processed
for donation, see end of this page:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition
- Alpha of Apache NetBeans (incubating) has been released:
http s://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Alpha
- Beta of Apache NetBeans (incubating) is nearing completion and ready for
vote threads:
htt ps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta
- A special aspect of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Beta is the ability
for the user to need to specify whether they want to use the GPL-ed
nb-javac (which is an Apache requirement, i.e., the user needs to take the
onus of using binaries that are not compliant with Apache licensing
requirements) or javac directly from JDK 9 (which thus complies with
Apache licenses, though has less solid integration with NetBeans):
https: //cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Java+Editor+Using+JDK+javac
- see also https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279
- Plan was to work on Beta release during last week of the year, but holiday
season got in the way.
- Repo created for cleaning up netbeans.org website, with content and
instructions included:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website-cleanup
- New Apache NetBeans wiki-export tool has been added to
apache-netbeans-incubator-tools:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-tools
How would you assess the podling's maturity? Please feel free to add your own
commentary.
[X] Initial setup
[X] Working towards first release
[X] Community building
[ ] Nearing graduation
[ ] Other:
Date of last release:
2017-11-29 Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Alpha [RC2]
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
Process for becoming a committer has been documented
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Becoming+a+committer)
and can now be followed.
Signed-off-by:
[X](netbeans) Ate Douma
Comments:
[X](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
Comments: +1 to Mark's comments
[ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
Comments:
[X](netbeans) Mark Struberg
Comments: The understanding of ASF 'mechanics'
grows steadily. Think they are on a good way!
NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Relicensing of files to ASF.
2. Completion of NOTICE and LICENSE files.
3. Increase the involvement of the community in release tasks.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
- Various discussions ongoing on Apache NetBeans dev mailing list.
- First pull requests have been received and community has been reviewing them.
- At NetBeans meetup in Munich, Sven Reimers, an Apache NetBeans committer, demoed Java 9 features (e.g., Jigsaw, JShell, JLink) in Apache NetBeans.
How has the project developed since the last report?
- SGA has been provided by Oracle and accepted by Apache.
- Apache Git repo now contains the 1st code donation, 2 more being worked on, consisting of around 45,000 files and 4 million LOC.
- Mirroring has been set up via GitHub.
- Around 29000 files have been relicensed to Apache via a converter tool created by Jan Lahoda, an Apache NetBeans committer.
- Repo has been set up for tools, e.g., the converter tool referenced above: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-tools
- Initial README, NOTICE, and LICENSE have been created and pushed.
- Jenkins build jobs have been set up and are working.
- Rat integration has been set up and is working as part of the build process.
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
Please feel free to add your own commentary.
[X] Initial setup
[X] Working towards first release
[X] Community building
[ ] Nearing graduation
[ ] Other:
Date of last release:
No release yet.
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
Only initial committers, no additional voting has been done.
Signed-off-by:
[X](netbeans) Ate Douma
Comments:
[X](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
Comments:
[ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
Comments:
[ ](netbeans) Mark Struberg
Comments:
IPMC/Shepherd notes:
johndament: Now that they have their first SGA, podling is getting their feet wet in true ASF processes to get a release out the door. On list activity is great.
NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Legal process to hand over code. Still pending and frustrating to all concerned.
2. Possibility that NetBeans 1st donation will not be done in time to release together with JDK 9.
3. Slowness/thoroughness of the process of handing over code from Oracle.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
The process will take time.
How has the community developed since the last report?
Various discussions about specific plugins, etc, and about the logo and website.
How has the project developed since the last report?
Progress is being made on the Oracle side, the progress is continual, but slow.
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
Please feel free to add your own commentary.
[X] Initial setup
[X] Working towards first release
[X] Community building
[ ] Nearing graduation
[ ] Other:
Date of last release:
No releases as of yet.
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
Signed-off-by:
[X](netbeans) Ate Douma
Comments: Latest news is that Oracle is now at the final stage,
reviewing the AL2.0 and CCLA itself, needed for the 1st code donation.
So hopefully we finally can import and validate the 1st donation soon.
[ ](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
Comments:
[ ](netbeans) Emmanuel Lecharny
Comments:
[ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
Comments:
[X](netbeans) Mark Struberg
Comments: NetCAT (Community Acceptance Testing) got set up. Could be a good chance to broaden the community.
NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Licensing, i.e., identifying and solving GPL-related code.
2. Coming up with a process of contributing code that makes sense to
everyone.
3. Working on roadmaps, features, and plans together as a community.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
- Several new entries added to Who's Who page:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Who%27s+Who
- Ongoing discussions on the Apache NetBeans mailing list.
- Several updates to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/netbeans.html
have been done.
- Meetups planned in April: Athens, Bangalore, London
How has the project developed since the last report?
- All repos relating to Java SE NetBeans IDE have been audited on Oracle's
side (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition).
- Only the code that has been written since the audit started needs to be
reviewed, of the Java SE NetBeans IDE.
- Regular updates on process to Apache NetBeans mailing list.
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
No releases yet, though active discussions and community enthusiasm.
Please feel free to add your own commentary.
[X] Initial setup
[ ] Working towards first release
[ ] Community building
[ ] Nearing graduation
[ ] Other:
Date of last release:
No releases yet.
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
No one has been elected so far.
Signed-off-by:
[X](netbeans) Ate Douma
Comments:
[X](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
Comments:
[ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
Comments:
[X](netbeans) Mark Struberg
Comments:
NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Licensing, i.e., identifying and solving GPL-related code.
2. Coming up with a process of contributing code that makes sense to
everyone.
3. Working on roadmaps, features, and plans together as a community.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
Our first vote for the new logo, still ongoing.
How has the project developed since the last report?
The 1st (out of 12) repository has been cleared by Oracle legal / technical
review for donation.
Dependencies optionally downloaded from Maven Central instead of the
project's own public dependencies server.
Converted Git repositories pushed to GitHub by a community contributor.
These are not canonical since we are waiting for the Code Grant to be
signed.
First community member pull request on the GitHub repository.
Ticket created for a new website.
Date of last release:
No releases yet.
When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
No one has been elected so far.
Signed-off-by:
[X](netbeans) Ate Douma
[X](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
[ ](netbeans) Emmanuel Lecharny
[ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
[X](netbeans) Jim Jagielski
[ ](netbeans) Mark Struberg
Shepherd/Mentor notes:
Drew Farris (shepherd):
6(!) Mentors active on mailing lists. Healthy progress over the past
couple months.
NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Licensing, i.e., identifying and solving GPL-related code.
2. Coming up with a process of contributing code that makes sense to
everyone.
3. Working on roadmaps, features, and plans together as a community.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
Discussed CCLA/SGA on the dev mailing list.
Discussed existing mailing lists migration plan to Apache:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists+migration
How has the project developed since the last report?
CCLA and SGA still in the process of being approved and signed by
Oracle, which will also apply the copyright headers as instructed on
the dev mailing list.
Started initial code cleanup analysis
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Overview%3A+NetBeans+Structure
Oracle has already agreed to relicense the Graal.js parser under the
Apache license. Resolved in LEGAL-279 the nb-javac dependency
license.
Almost finished new static website for Apache NetBeans.
Experimented Mercurial to Git repository migration with a focus on
repository size. Solution found, size not an issue anymore.
Date of last release:
No releases yet.
When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
No one has been elected so far.
Signed-off-by:
[X](netbeans) Ate Douma
[X](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
[X](netbeans) Emmanuel Lecharny
[X](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
[ ](netbeans) Jim Jagielski
[ ](netbeans) Mark Struberg
NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.
NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Licensing, i.e., identifying and solving GPL-related code.
2. Coming up with a process of contributing code that makes sense to
everyone.
3. Working on roadmaps, features, and plans together as a community.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
Mailing lists and Wiki set up.
Discussions about voting, the CCLA/SGA, are taking place in the private
mailing list, all other discussions in dev mailing list.
We want as many discussions as possible in dev mailing list, i.e., as
public as possible.
How has the project developed since the last report?
Apache NetBeans Proposal has been published and accepted into incubation.
Apache Transition plan, listing everything needing to be done, including
proposed milestones, is being worked on:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition
CCLA and SGA have been provided in draft form by Oracle and have been
approved by ASF. Currently they're in the process of being approved and
signed by Oracle.
Once that's done, experiments with migrating hg.netbeans.org/releases to
Apache Git can proceed.
Date of last release:
No releases yet.
When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
No one has been elected so far.
Signed-off-by:
[X](netbeans) Ate Douma
[X](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
[X](netbeans) Emmanuel Lecharny
[ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
[X](netbeans) Jim Jagielski
[x](netbeans) Mark Struberg