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Role of infrastructure

29 Aug 2007

 Various input, not all consistent or coherent:

 * great job, need a solaris zone for new services
 * we need to do a better job organizing volunteers
 * more use of sandbox/asylum
 * infra role mixes policy vs resources
 * dim's idea of using yahoo boxes for sandboxes
 * a smaller number of services, well supported is better than a
   large number of services spottily supported
 * unpaid volunteers without a track record are presumed to being
    prone to disappear.  Products like MoinMoin, JIRA and others
    tend to be used beyond expectations, so sandboxes don't solve
    the problem.  Sandbox takes a lot of time.  More machines can
    be ordered, but people can't be.
 * need and don't have an infrastructure roadmap
 * we need a way to "grow" new volunteers
 * happy with three 9's.  hiring people makes us lose volunteers
 * self fulfilling prophesy: pushing away volunteers, and using that
   to justify the need to hire
 * need two realms, one at 3 nines, another at a higher level
 * need a volunteer to help coordinate