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S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose, distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing continuous, unbounded streams of data. S4 has been incubating since 2011-09-26. No report submitted this month. There have been discussions about retiring the podling from the Apache Incubator.
S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose, distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing continuous, unbounded streams of data. S4 has been incubating since 2011-09-26. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. No development since last release 2. Limited activity on mailing lists 3. Need new committers/contributors Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? The project is considering retirement How has the community developed since the last report? No development How has the project developed since the last report? No development Date of last release: June 2013: S4 0.6.0 released When were the last committers or PMC members elected? March 2013 (Daniel Gómez Ferro) Signed-off-by: [x](s4) Patrick Hunt [ ](s4) Arun Murthy
S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose, distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing continuous, unbounded streams of data. S4 has been incubating since 2011-09-26. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. No development since last release 2. Limited activity on mailing lists 3. Need new committers/contributors Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? There was a discussion related to retirement but there was some interest from the community to continue the project. However there were no contributions since last release. How has the community developed since the last report? No activity on dev mailing list over last couple of months How has the project developed since the last report? No major commits since last release. One of the reason Date of last release: June 2013: S4 0.6.0 released. When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Was reported by March 2013 (Daniel Gómez Ferro). Signed-off-by: [X](s4) Patrick Hunt [ ](s4) Arun Murthy Shepherd notes: John Ament (johndament): The board report reflects my sentiments as well. S4 seems to be in a bit of rut. I tried kicking off some conversations on the dev mailing list, no luck. It seems like there are at best five active participants, between the users list and dev list. Considering that there hasn't been a commit since last board report, it doesn't come off as a good sign for me. I think retirement may be an option to start exploring.
S4 is a general-purpose, distributed, scalable, fault-tolerant, pluggable
platform that allows programmers to easily develop applications for
processing continuous unbounded streams of data.
S4 has been incubating since 2011-09-26.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. The frequency of releases has been low in the past. Working to put out
more releases.
2. The community rise, to be more active and flourish.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of?
There also was discussion related to “retirement”. Currently people of the
community stepped up and decided continue the project. As result, came up
with building community, providing more patches, implementing new features.
Moreover, Kurtt Lin wrote:
“Cheer up, guys. I'm seeing opportunities in this stream processing field
as well as in S4. What I haven’t mentioned is that, S4 had found
successful applications in our research group even back in the 0.3.0 days
and now in our start-up. We have built scalable real time search over
microblogs with some S4 features enhanced (the paper appears in 2013’s
EDBT proceedings, link is
http://www.edbt.org/Proceedings/2013-Genova/papers/edbt/a31-lin.pdf); we
also built a platform on top of S4 for detecting and analyzing real-time
traffic conditions, processing over hundreds of millions of records every
day. Now we plan to contribute to the community. I personally have
created and responded to some JIRAs, but I would like to do more.
Actually, I am ongoing proposing a design documentation of integrating S4
with Helix along the roadmap; this would help enhancing the elasticity
feature for S4. So, I suppose we could put the "retirement" discussion
aside? Give us the new comers some time perhaps a couple of months to see
what we can do to make the community healthier. Of course, some of us are
new; we shall ask for your help and guidance occasionally, please be
responsive (as what you are doing now), :) You all have done brilliant
jobs! :) “
One particular problem we have been having is with growth of the community.
Having said that in a recent e-mail thread, we have received very positive
feedback from some developers, so we would like to remain in incubation for
a little longer so that we can get some traction.
When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
Was reported by March 2013 (Daniel Gómez Ferro).
When did the project last make any releases?
June 2013: S4 0.6.0 released.
Two patches are available now, due to 0.7 release 3 of 18 issues was
solved, the rest in progress.
How has the community developed since the last report?
In March, the dev mailing list was reasonably busy (132 messages) and then
that's dwindled to less than 35 per month since March. There was no
activity in git on August at all. A little in July, more in June. There has
been no change in the community. We have been seeing some traffic on the
mailing lists, mostly questions about how to use S4, but the code
contributions have been fairly minimal. However, some developers have
expressed interested in contributing so we expect to start receiving more
contributions in the near future. To grow the community, we plan to have a
closer interaction with other Apache projects like Gora and Helix.
Signed-off-by:
[x](s4) Patrick Hunt
[ ](s4) Arun Murthy
Shepherd notes:
(Dave Fisher/Wave) S4 knows how make releases. Is concerned about community
growth and think that may impede graduation. I think that they are
actually ready to graduate.
S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose, distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing continuous, unbounded streams of data. S4 has been incubating since 2011-09-26. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. growing the community 2. verifying (changing?) the name of the project. See PODLINGNAMESEARCH-10 3. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? Ant Elder brought up the possibility of graduating. This is being discussed in the community. How has the community developed since the last report? New release created/approved. How has the project developed since the last report? Released a new version (0.6.0) Date of last release: June 3rd 2013 Please check this [X] when you have filled in the report for S4. Signed-off-by: Patrick Hunt: [x](s4) Arun Murthy: [ ](s4) Shepherd notes:
S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose, distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing continuous, unbounded streams of data. S4 has been incubating since 2011-09-26. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. growing the community 2. verifying (changing?) the name of the project. See PODLINGNAMESEARCH-10 Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? How has the community developed since the last report? We have a new committer (dferro). How has the project developed since the last report? We kept iterating on the integration with Apache Helix. We also added major updates to the codebase for improving configurability (and usability). We added the sources of the website to our Apache git repository, and prepared updates to the website and documentation for the forthcoming release (0.6). This includes migrating the documentation from the confluence wiki to the S4 website. We are aiming at cutting a release candidate during the second week of march for a new release. Signed-off-by: Patrick Hunt: [X](s4) Arun Murthy: [ ](s4) Shepherd notes: Things seem to be going well despite the smaller size. Do you think you will be proposing graduation before the next reporting period?
S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose, distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing continuous, unbounded streams of data. S4 entered incubation on September 26th 2011. Primary issues blocking graduation: - growing the community - verifying the name of the project. See PODLINGNAMESEARCH-10 Community development since last report: We had new users showing interest on the s4-user list, which showed regular activity. Several new contributors also participated to technical discussions on the Jira tickets. Project development since last report: The initial release of the completely refactored version of S4, 0.5.0, was focused on providing the basic API and features. We are now preparing the next release and focusing on integrations, features and performance. Regarding integration, for elasticity, we worked on integrating the Apache incubator Helix project, and for resource scheduling, interfaced with another Apache project: YARN. We also worked on improving performance, which is a key factor for adoption. Signed-off-by: phunt, rvs
S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose, distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing continuous, unbounded streams of data. S4 entered incubation on September 26th 2011. Primary issues blocking graduation: - growing the community - verifying the name of the project. See PODLINGNAMESEARCH-10 Community development since last report: We received contributions from new contributors, including core, communication layer, deployment framework and command set. Project development since last report: We had our first release as part of the incubator, on August 16th 2012: S4 0.5.0-incubating Apart from being a major refactoring, this release aims at lowering the adoption bar by clarifying the API and providing a set of commands for the development and deployment lifecycle. We also believe this recent release should encourage adoption and contributions. Signed-off-by: phunt, bmargulies
S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose, distributed,
scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform that allows
programmers to easily develop applications for processing continuous,
unbounded streams of data.
S4 entered incubation on September 26th 2011.
Infrastructure issues
No infrastructure issues
Other issues before graduation
1. Still working towards an initial release on Apache with the current
code (version 0.4 = version 0.3 + checkpointing + bugfixes)
2. Complete the current work on the new version (S4-piper, 0.5), which
is a major refactoring that simplifies concepts, API, and introduce
new features such as dynamic deployment and reliable channels.
3. Grow the community. The activity around the project has been low and
the project simply cannot graduate without substantially increasing
its activity. We expect to get increased interest once we get a release
out, in particular of the S4-Piper design. We don't have a release date
yet, though.
Additionally, committers have been having internal discussions with
their companies and outside with their colleagues to attract more
attention to the project. We have been able to attract some attention,
but unfortunately that attention has not yet translated into more
activity around the project.
Project activity:
- 55 Jira issues created to date
- 10 issue reporters
- 5 contributors according to Jira
- Number of users subscribed to the mailing lists: 75 on dev (55 in the
previous report), 91 on user (72 in the previous report)
Signed off by mentor: phunt
Shepherd: Jukka Zitting
S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose, distributed,
scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform that allows
programmers to easily develop applications for processing continuous,
unbounded streams of data.
S4 entered incubation on September 26th 2011.
Infrastructure issues
- Migration to the experimental git program completed. No problems reported.
Other issues before graduation
1. Still working towards an initial release on Apache with the current
code (version 0.4 = version 0.3 + checkpointing + bugfixes)
2. Complete the current work on the new version (S4-piper, 0.5), which
is a major refactoring that simplifies concepts, API, and introduce
new features such as dynamic deployment and reliable channels.
Designed reliable channels; implemented guaranteed message-delivery even
in the presence of network glitches and partitions using Netty's TCP.
Pending one bug, this code is up for inclusion.
Added an Embedded Domain Specific Language (EDSL) to create applications.
Designed and started implementation of command-line deployment tool to
make it easy to manage the cluster.
Design adaptor and inter-application communication.
3. Grow the community
Project activity:
- 45 Jira issues created to date
- 8 issue reporters
- 5 contributors
- Mailing lists: 55 on dev, 72 on user
Signed off by mentor: phunt
DID NOT REPORT. Still bootstrapping into the Incubator.
DID NOT REPORT. Still bootstrapping into the Incubator.
S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose, distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing continuous, unbounded streams of data. S4 entered incubation on September 26th 2011. * Issues before graduation 1. Migrate code from github to Apache SVN and make an initial release on Apache with the current code (version 0.4 = version 0.3 + checkpointing + bugfixes) 2. All committers to get ICLA 3. Migrate web site from s4.io to Apache infrastructure 4. Complete the current work on the new version (0.5), which is a major refactoring in order to simplify concepts, API, and introduce new features such as dynamic deployment and reliable channels 5. Grow the community Community 1. Mailing lists have been created. We are already using them. 2. Jira initialized and started to track issues 3. Karma granted for committers with ICLA 4. Confluence Wiki space created 5. IRC channel set-up Project developments We have pre-Apache releases on github and our current effort mostly focused on a major refactoring of the codebase. Goal is to have it ready soon so that we don't need to support 2 distinct concurrent versions.