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Logging for C++. N.B. This is a reboot of the Log4cxx podling which previously
graduated.
log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Create a release
2. Activate some community
3.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
There is an ongoing discussion since first quarter 2016 about how to deal
with this project, because no release happened yet and there's only little
activity regarding development and support. Especially no release is a
problem for incubating projects.
How has the community developed since the last report?
One support question, no new project members.
How has the project developed since the last report?
Robert Middleton finished his attempt to move the project to use C++
smart pointers instead of the former used custom implementation. That
work needs to be tested and integrated upstream, but there's no time plan
currently on when this will be done.
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
It seems this project has run its course in the incubator. The Logging PMC
needs to decide what to do with the project.
[ ] Initial setup
[ ] Working towards first release
[ ] Community building
[ ] Nearing graduation
[X] Other: pretty much dormant
Date of last release:
2008-04-03 was the last official, pre-incubation 0.10.0
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
Signed-off-by:
[X](log4cxx2) Ralph Goers
Comments:
Logging for C++. N.B. This is a reboot of the Log4cxx podling which previously graduated. log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Create a release 2. Activate some community 3. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? There was a discussion in the first quarter of the year to move the project to attic unless it is able to release in the next few months. No release happened since then. Currently it seems that there's only one official project member with commit access left and even though some contributor worked on fixing the release process, that project member was unable to invest the necessary time to create a release yet. For that reason, the left member decided to not even care anymore about a release and published this decision on the dev mailing list of the project. While the member is still willing to provide some support and would regret a move of the project to attic, creating a release has no priority nor is seen as strictly necessary and will therefore most likely always prioritize lower than other tasks. How has the community developed since the last report? 3 support questions, no new project members. There was a lengthy discussion about switching to C++ standard smart pointers with possibly breaking the API, the influence of such an approach on a release etc. Some bugs have been created to coordinate that work. Robert Middleton started to move the project to smart pointers using boost or std::shared_ptr in a private GitHub repo. He's actually changing more code than the one left official project member. https://github.com/rm5248/log4cxx-testing/tree/smart_pointers Date of last release: 2008-04-03 was the last official, pre-incubation 0.10.0 When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Signed-off-by: [X](log4cxx2) Ralph Goers Shepherd/Mentor notes: Ralph Goers: The Log4j PMC will need to have a discussion about the state of this project. Since Log4cxx2 was always intended to be a subproject of the Logging project moving it to the attic may or may not be the right move. Instead, it might just become a "dormant" subproject.
Logging for C++. N.B. This is a reboot of the Log4cxx podling which previously graduated. log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Create a release 2. Activate some community 3. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? There was a discussion in the first quarter of the year to move the project to attic unless it is able to release in the next few months. No release happened since then. There was a discussion about some kind of "maintenance mode" where releases and community growth doesn't matter much. As that mode doesn't exist, it has been suggested to release, graduate from incubator and just live along other logging projects and in a comparable state like log4cxx. Currently it seems that there's only one official project member with commit access left answering mails. Even though that member and some contributors worked on being able to create a release in the past, contrary to expectations that project member didn't find the time to deal with a release as necessary. It seems most likely that if a release doesn't happen until the next report is due, it won't at all anymore. At least not by that one left member. How has the community developed since the last report? One new contributor took quite some time to look and fix the release process. Two support mails from users, no new project members. How has the project developed since the last report? Robert Middleton took quite some time to look at the build and release process on Windows and Linux in the last two months and came to the conclusion that the current Maven based process for both seems broken. He provided a shell based alternative for the release and CMAKE build starting points, which hasn't been merged into or tested by the project yet. Date of last release: 2008-04-03 was the last official, pre-incubation 0.10.0 When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Signed-off-by: [X](log4cxx2) Ralph Goers Shepherd/Mentor notes: Drew Farris: One mentor active within in the past month. There is a single active committer and minor progress towards a release. The current build system is proving problematic for the contributor involved. There is some discussion about moving to the attic and this seems appropriate
Logging for C++ log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Create a release 2. Activate some community 3. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? There was a discussion in the first quarter of the year to move the project to attic unless it is able to release in the next few months. No release happened since then. The project would like to have some kind of maintenance mode within Apache, where things like community growth and releases are not that important, as long there's a bit of support provided and "anyone" is still alive. The problem with attic is the read-only state of the repo, which makes it impossible to do anything (even if it's rare). How has the community developed since the last report? Not grown and only a few mails on the dev list in the last two months. No support requests the last two months. Bill Rowe stepped in as a mentor. How has the project developed since the last report? The build process using autotools on Linux has been fixed and there was a discussion about supported build tools, because currently the project heavily relies on the unsupported cpptasks framework. While there was no actual result, the common focus was on dropping cpptasks and ANT for the build of the software and use autoconf and/or cmake instead. Additionally, one project member was willing to make himself more familiar with the release process, but there was no progress reported in the last month. Date of last release: 2008-04-03 was the last official, pre-incubation 0.10.0 When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Signed-off-by: [X](log4cxx2) Ralph Goers Shepherd/Mentor notes: I have explained that there is no "maintenance mode" for a standalone project. However, if the project can demonstrate that it can produce a release and has enough people to maintain the project then it can rejoin the logging project where it can essentially exist in maintenance mode much like log4php is. The project moved to the incubator because there were people who said they wanted to get involved with the project and were willing to get involved. To date, one person has been actively involved but not enough to produce a release. One other person was involve in a discussion on the release process.
Logging for C++ log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Create a release 2. Activate some community 3. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? There's an ongoing discussion to move the project to attic unless it is able to release in the next few months. How has the community developed since the last report? Not grown. However, the project aims to become a sub project of Apache Logging again. Community growth is not much a matter for this podling, as long as there are a few active contributors. How has the project developed since the last report? After the discussion about the activity of the project and the success of the incubation process, there's currently a member willing to step through the release process. The initial plan on incubation anyway was to primary apply available patches and release those bug fixes. Additionally, there's once more a discussion about the supported build platforms, because currently the project heavily focusses on cpptasks, which is not maintained and simply doesn't support current versions of all formerly supported IDEs anymore. The current focus is on dropping cpptasks and ANT for the build of the software and use autoconf and/or cmake instead. Date of last release: 2008-04-03 was the last official, pre-incubation 0.10.0 When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Signed-off-by: [X](log4cxx2) Ralph Goers
Logging for C++ log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Create a release 2. Activate some community 3. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? There's an ongoing discussion to move the project to attic unless it is able to release in the next few months. How has the community developed since the last report? Not grown. However, the project aims to become a sub project of Apache Logging again. Community growth is not much a matter for this podling, as long as there are a few active contributors. How has the project developed since the last report? After the discussion about the activity of the project and the success of the incubation process, there's currently a member willing to step through the release process. The initial plan on incubation anyway was to primary apply available patches and release those bug fixes. Additionally, there's once more a discussion about the supported build platforms, because currently the project heavily focusses on cpptasks, which is not maintained and simply doesn't support current versions of all formerly supported IDEs anymore. The current focus is on dropping cpptasks and ANT for the build of the software and use autoconf and/or cmake instead. Date of last release: 2008-04-03 was the last official, pre-incubation 0.10.0 When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Signed-off-by: [ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy Shepherd/Mentor notes: Marvin Humphrey (marvin): Ralph Goers has volunteered to serve as Mentor.
Logging for C++ log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Activate some community 2. Create a release 3. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? Not sure if the project still has an official mentor assigned, after Christian Grobmeier is not the chair of the Apache Logging Services project anymore. How has the community developed since the last report? Not grown. However, the project aims to become a sub project of Apache Logging again. Community growth is not much a matter for this podling, as long as there are a few active contributors. How has the project developed since the last report? Not at all: There's no public development and it seems there's currently only one originally incubating community member left. Though some support is given and bugs are tracked. Date of last release: 2008-04-03 was the last official, pre-incubation 0.10.0 When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Signed-off-by: [ ](log4cxx2) Christian Grobmeier [ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy Shepherd/Mentor notes: John D. Ament (johndament): Project appears to be in bad shape. Even though there is activity on the ML there is no mentor engagement. Marvin Humphrey (marvin): Christian Grobmeier has resigned as Mentor, and attempts to reach Scott Deboy have not been successful. A thread was started on the general list and there remains some interest in the podling. Bill Rowe has volunteered to serve as Mentor provided that the contributors can rally.
Logging for C++ log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Activate some community 2. Create a release 3. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? No. How has the community developed since the last report? Not grown. However, the project aims to become a sub project of Apache Logging again. Community growth is not much a matter for this podling, as long as there are a few active contributors. How has the project developed since the last report? Not at all: There's no public development and it seems there's currently only one originally incubating community member left. Though some support is given and bugs are tracked. Date of last release: 2008-04-03 was the last official, pre-incubation 0.10.0 When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Signed-off-by: [X](log4cxx2) Christian Grobmeier [ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy
Logging for C++ log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Create a release Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? No. How has the community developed since the last report? Not grown. However, the project aims to become a sub project of Apache Logging again. Community growth is not much a matter for this podling, as long as there are a few active contributors. How has the project developed since the last report? Not much: There currently doesn't seem to be any public development, though support is given and bugs are tracked. Date of last release: 2008-04-03 was the last official, pre-incubation 0.10.0 When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Signed-off-by: [X](log4cxx2) Christian Grobmeier [ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy Shepherd/Mentor notes: P. Taylor Goetz (ptgoetz): It appears the attempt to reboot the lo4cxx2 project by re-incubating is failing, and the podling is not making any progress in terms of releases and community development. The primary stated goal of the last few reports has been to produce a release, but the dev@ mailing list is largely devoid of any release discussions (the last mention of a release was 12 Dec 2014 [1]). The current report is a word-for-word copy of the last report, and there has been only one email from a mentor in the last 5 months (to discuss the incubator report). I noticed that the podling does not appear to have (that I could find) a private mailing list (possibly an oversight from when it returned to the incubator?), which I think it would need for discussing new committers/PPMC members, retiring, etc. I'm assuming they are relying on private@logging for private discussions, which may not be appropriate for a podling. [1] http://s.apache.org/SfR
Logging for C++ log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Create a release Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? No. How has the community developed since the last report? Not grown. However the project aims to become a sub project of Apache Logging again. Community growth is not much a matter for this podling, as long as there are a few active contributors. How has the project developed since the last report? Not much: Some approach has been made to push towards a release, but there wehere no updates regarding this approach for the last weeks. There currently doesn't seem to be any public development, though support is given, bugs are tracked and some patches have been applied. Date of last release: 2008-04-03 was the last official, pre-incubation 0.10.0 When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Signed-off-by: [X](log4cxx2) Christian Grobmeier [ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy
Logging for C++ log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Create a release 2. 3. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? None yet. How has the community developed since the last report? Not grown. However the project aims to become a sub project of Apache Logging again. Community growth is not much a matter for this podling, as long as there are a few active contributors. How has the project developed since the last report? Not much: some mails were sent, but in general it was not much development. Date of last release: None. When were the last committers or PMC members elected? Signed-off-by: [X](log4cxx2) Christian Grobmeier [ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy Shepherd/Mentor notes: Podling reported late. It doesn't look like the marvin alerts went out. Could be a moderation issue. Mailing list activity is very light.
Logging for C++
log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. We need to release 0.11.0 as maintenance release.
2. We probably need to decide what's an acceptable platform/compiler
list, sort out any remaining hiccups, and then move towards a release.
3. We need to make a broader use of the ASF infrastructure
(notably the CI, as well as improved management of the Jira
site - notably with triaging), and establish a roadmap for
the next releases.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
N/A
How has the community developed since the last report?
No changes in team.
How has the project developed since the last report?
Mails suggest that there's work going on in the background by some
committers especially regarding the build process, but there hasn't been
any notable commit in the last weeks. The current trunk now fixes most of
the important outstanding bugs and we are actively supporting the
project. Some minor changes have been applied for the website.
Date of last release:
2008-04-03 was the official, pre-incubation 0.10.0
Many post-0.10.0 commits exist on trunk which we intend to get out as
0.11.x.
When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
N/A
Signed-off-by:
[X](log4cxx2) Christian Grobmeier
[ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy
Shepherd/Mentor notes:
log4cxx is still getting started. While activity is happening, they need
to get their first release out the door to be successful and start to get
interest.
Logging for C++
log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. We probably need to decide what's an acceptable platform/compiler list,
sort out any remaining hiccups, and then move towards a release.
2. We need to release 0.11.0 as maintenance release done via ASF
3. We need to make a broader use of the ASF infrastructure
(notably the CI, as well as improved management of the Jira
site - notably with triaging), and establish a roadmap for
the next releases.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
N/A
How has the community developed since the last report?
No changes in team.
How has the project developed since the last report?
We are actively supporting the project. Mails suggest that there's work
going on in the background by some committers especially regarding the
build process, but there hasn't been any notable commit in the last weeks.
The current trunk now fixes most of the important outstanding bugs.
Date of last release:
2008-04-03 was the official, pre-incubation 0.10.0
Many post-0.10.0 commits exist on trunk which we intend to get out as
0.11.x.
When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
N/A
Signed-off-by:
[X](log4cxx2) Christian Grobmeier
[ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy
Logging for C++
log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. We probably need to decide what's an acceptable platform/compiler list,
sort out any remaining hiccups, and then move towards a release.
2. We need to release 0.11.0 as maintenance release.
3. We need to make a broader use of the ASF infrastructure (notably the
CI, as well as improved management of the Jira site - notably with
triaging), and establish a roadmap for the next releases.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
N/A
How has the community developed since the last report?
The committers are still getting acquainted with each other and the
foundation. There's only little need for support currently, but
from time to time it looks like "old users" notify about themselves.
How has the project developed since the last report?
We have applied a lot of bug fixes which were collected in the last
years in JIRA and fit to a maintenance release, tested on different
platforms and started to discuss about changes in the used build
system because of different problems.
Date of last release:
2008-04-03 was the official, pre-incubation 0.10.0
Many post-0.10.0 commits exist on trunk which we intend to get out as
0.11.x.
When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
N/A
Signed-off-by:
[X](log4cxx2) Christian Grobmeier
[ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy
Logging for C++
log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. We probably need to decide what's an acceptable platform/compiler
list, sort out any remaining hiccups, and then move towards a
release.
2. We need to publish the project site with updated content to
reflect the new status and fix documentation bugs.
3. We need to make a broader use of the ASF infrastructure
(notably the CI, as well as improved management of the Jira
site - notably with triaging), and establish a roadmap for
the next releases.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
We are stuck on INFRA-7209 and how to properly publish the project
site.
How has the community developed since the last report?
The committers are still getting acquainted with each other and the
foundation. There have been some discussions about how to develop
within the team of committers already, like using a CI, how
to deal with issues regarding a changelog, which fixes should be
covered by our first incubation release etc.
Moderation of the list seems to work, there were some support
requests which were answered and problems introduced by commits on
trunk discussed.
How has the project developed since the last report?
Some known bugs were fixed already and available patches applied,
which is work in progress for the new release. It has been suggested
to schedule most of the remaining available patches for an upcoming
release of 0.11.0 to include as much content which has been provided
over the years as possible.
Date of last release:
2008-04-03 was the official, pre-incubation 0.10.0
Many post-0.10.0 commits exist on trunk which we intend to get out
as 0.11.x.
When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
N/A
Signed-off-by:
[X](log4cxx2) Christian Grobmeier
[ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy
Logging for C++
log4cxx2 has been incubating since 2013-12-09. It is a reboot of an
earlier, stalled logging project with a new collection of committers.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Triage on old, pre-incubation issues in JIRA and reported mailing
lists with an eye towards initial re-release blockers
2. Solving those blockers on a minimal set of platforms to permit
initial re-release.
3. Reengaging former user community, many of whom left as previous
incarnation became dormant.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
No.
How has the community developed since the last report?
The committers are getting acquainted with each other and the foundation.
How has the project developed since the last report?
This is our first report.
Date of last release:
2008-04-03 was the official, pre-incubation 0.10.0
Many post-0.10.0 commits exist on trunk which we intend to get out as
0.11.x.
When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
N/A
Signed-off-by:
[X](log4cxx2) Christian Grobmeier
[ ](log4cxx2) Scott Deboy
Shepherd/Mentor notes:
Christian Grobmeier (grobmeier):
the podling is just getting started